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Sanjay Gupta and Why We Should Challenge Ourselves Every Day

By Cathy Chester on October 31, 2015

I had no doubt I’d be fascinated while listening to Sanjay Gupta speak at the recent New Jersey Speaker Series. He reminds me of the great neurologist and author Oliver Sacks who once said, "It is a privilege to share your stories so others may learn from your wisdom and experience."

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Like Sacks, Gupta is a true Renaissance Man. Here are a few reasons why I feel confident saying that:

His role as chief medical correspondent for CNN won him several Emmy and Peabody Awards. His medical training and public health policy distinguish his reporting on medical science topics that include brain injury, disaster recovery, healthcare reform, fitness, military medicine and HIV/AIDS.

He’s reported from areas around the world that most of us have never heard of, so he's uniquely qualified in telling us that people are basically the same no matter where they live. They love their family, drive their kids to school, go to ATM’s, laugh, play, hope, dream and feel.

While in Iraq he covered medical aspects of the 2003 invasion and performed surgeries on both U.S. soldiers and Iraqi civilians under nearly impossible conditions.

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Photo Credit: Fairleigh Dickinson University

He’s a practicing neurosurgeon.

And on top of everything Dr. Gupta is happily married and the father of three children who are so young they’ve never known a time when their father was not on television. The question they have is why can Daddy answer them on Skype and not when he's on-screen while reporting on CNN?

He’s not only self-deprecating but, as most viewers already know, he’s as true and caring a person as you’d think he’d be.

He began his talk by informing us that the fear of public speaking is ranked higher than the fear of death. Imagine that! So, he surmised, someone attending a funeral would rather be in the casket than giving the eulogy.

I wondered why he shared this odd fact with us right off the bat. It's because he wanted to share the advice his parents gave him, advice he’s now passing onto his children:

“You should do something every day that scares you. Do something that challenges you either mentally or physically. It’s what helped me try to do many things in my life. It helped me get out of my comfort zone. What does that mean? Ask yourself what do you want to do today, or what will you do that scares you?”

He asks us when was the last time we did something for the first time, because it’s important for us to always challenge our beliefs and ourselves, and learn to be comfortable with that.

I loved that, because as we age we should always remain curious. It’s what keeps our brains elastic and challenges us to continually learn and grow.

As I said in my last post I’ll be facing one of my fears in November, and now Dr. Gupta has inspired me to even dare to look forward to it.

I want to thank Dr. Gupta for covering so many topics that resonated with me. Here are just a few:

Medical Marijuana: Dr. Gupta’s opinion on medical marijuana changed after he took the time to scrutinize studies that seemed skewed toward failure. His findings led him to “be on the right side of science, but the wrong side of ideology.

He told the story of Charlotte, a little girl who had 300 seizures a day as her parents helplessly looked on. When traditional medicine didn’t work, medical marijuana did.

There are countless stories of people struggling with illness that traditional medicine can’t help, but medical marijuana does.

challengeI had the opportunity to speak privately with Dr. Gupta, and told him that many people in the Multiple Sclerosis community live with pain every day. When traditional medicine failed them they found relief with medical marijuana.

He was fascinated and, despite a long line of people waiting to meet him at the cocktail party we were invited to in his honor, he asked me to tell him more. My heart was full.

Taking risks: Sanjay Gupta learned about taking risks from his parents. He learned from his mom who, while living in Oklahoma in the 1960’s (and wearing a sari, something unusual in OK) went to school to become an automotive engineer. She drove to Michigan to find work, and as she reached Ann Arbor her car broke down. She knew no one. What was she going to do? She looked for a phone booth and leafed through the phone book to find an Indian sounding name. After making her first call she spoke to the roommate of the person she was trying to reach.

That man became her husband, Sanjay Gupta’s father.

Longevity: “How long can we live? How long do we want to live? When does old age begin? The answer depends on who’s being asked the question and most people think it’s a little bit older than they are, except the millennials who think old age begins around 60.”

The answer is, “How old do we FEEL?”

Most people over age 50 feel at least 10 years younger than their age. No one ever thinks they’re going to get old, and most of us believe that old age is worse than it actually is.

According to Dr. Gupta we tend to think of longevity in terms of 3 things: activity, nutrition and sleep. If we think about the solution to these 3 things we should think about this:

  • "Instead of just sleep, maybe we should be thinking about rest. When does the brain and mind really rest?
  • Could a change of activity be a form of rest?
  • With diet we now know more about nutrition, and that sugar is worse than fat.
  • We need to push the plate away when we’re 80% full; we should never stuff ourselves.
  • With exercise, burning fat and improving cardiac endurance may involve doing lower intensity exercise; doing things that are easier may provide a better payoff."

We’re becoming more aligned with technology, are learning more and more about genomics and have so many obvious inventions right in front of us. The future looks bright.

Telemedicine: I was happy to finally hear someone from the medical community talk about the importance of using telemedicine in healthcare. This is a pet peeve of mine.

Over the years I’ve been to countless doctors and hospitals that don’t use technology to create better patient care. A lot of vital information gets lost when switching doctors or forgetting your complete medical history. Just think how much better patient care would be if medical innovation were combined with modern technology. Dr. Gupta completely agrees.

Paying close attention to things: We need to respect everything, and never dismiss a thing that’s around us. As a doctor and journalist this idea has been of great value to Dr. Gupta. He believes this also holds great value for everyone. If we begin being mindful, we’ll lead a more joyous life by simply paying attention to the things that are right in front of us.

“You’re also going to fully realize that every single life matters and you’re going to care much more about the people around you.”

Pause.

“Like I care about you.”

As my friends and I were leaving we walked past Dr. Gupta in the hallway getting ready to leave. When he looked over in my direction I bid him good-bye, and with a smile and a gentle voice he wished me good luck with my work.

In my view it doesn't get much better than that.

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The New Jersey Speaker Series, presented by Fairleigh Dickinson University, returned for its second season of distinguished and influential speakers who will deliver insights on a wide variety of subjects. They are:

October 8: Leon E. Panetta, Former Central Intelligence Agency; Director and U.S. Secretary of Defense

October 29: Sanjay Gupta: Neurosurgeon and CNN Chief Medical Correspondent

November 19: Ken Burns, Award-winning Documentarian

January 28: Ayan Hirsi Ali: International Activist and Author

February 18: Diana Nyad, American author, journalist, motivational speaker and long-distance swimmer who swam from Cuba to Key West, Florida

March 17: Frank Abagnale, subject for Steven Speilberg’s film “Catch Me If You Can”

April 14: Michio Kaku, Theoretical Physicist and Futurist

Disclosure: I was provided with three tickets for the entire New Jersey Speaker Series. All opinions expressed are, as always, completely my own.

Author

Cathy Chester

Comments

  1. What a great lineup for the series! I lke Dr. Gupta, too. I just don't know how he finds time to do all he does. But he has a good blend of common sense and medicine, which I appreciate!

  2. Yowsa! What a great article, Cath.
    First, yes, I was sorely disappointed that medical marijuana was never available for my brother-in-law,Larry. I know it would have made a remarkable difference in his quality of life. The ignorance and 1920's attitude surrounding this effective drug for MS patients and many others is frustrating at best and moronic at worst
    Yes, was it Eleanor Roosevelt who said we should do something every day that scares us? So necessary to remind ourselves that fear isn't always bad or helpful for that matter, especially when it's only the silly voices in our head!
    ONLY IF ONLY the use of technology would catch-the-hell-up in medicine. Physicians and medical offices and hospitals are required to use technology but somehow can't figure out how to 'talk' to one another and transfer records. Absurd. Sometimes I think medicine and government should actually listen to the common man/woman in the trenches, they would learn an enormous amount about what they don't know and where there concentration is so misguided.
    Sanjay...and his mom............are inspiring indeed. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, And wow......this series sounds great. Maybe next year!!!

  3. It's wonderful when we meet a well-known person and discover they're genuine and considerate, plus he took the time to listen to your story. When I look at him now, I'll think of you. xoxox, Brenda

  4. What a great opportunity to meet Dr. Gupta. Thank you for sharing the information from his talk. I am glad that you got to make the concerns of people with Multiple Sclerosis more visible by speaking with him. Have a lovely fall season.

  5. So nice to hear that Sanjay Gupta is as genuine in person as he seems on television. I think he's great and I love that you were able to spend time with him! I admire his perspectives on health, aging and medical marijuana.
    Seems like his message of facing fears and challenging oneself came at the perfect time Cath!

  6. Cathy this was a Great interview with Dr Gupta. I am happy you were able to tell him about your concerns of people affected by Multiple Sclerosis and he personal talk to you. Most media personnel are so stand offish enjoy read your article thanks for sharing.

  7. OMGosh...he's someone that speaks my language! "...never dismiss a thing around us." I love that he's so positive, taking the things changing around us and seeing the positive. I love his mother's story. thanks for writing this, Cathy. i'm sure he was a great inspiration to you for writing your book.

  8. Great post, Cathy. He seems the genuine article. It's been difficult to find doctors I like here in Cape May. There aren't a lot to choose from, but I'm slogging through it. I know if push came to shove in an emergency I would go to Philadelphia. Bedside manner is something we've lost with technology, I feel. It's a shame.
    b

  9. It's so heartening to know that celebrity hasn't "spoiled" Sanjay Gupta. He really does seem like the genuine article, and I'm so glad you made that connection with him. I'm sure he recognizes the important work you do in educating and inspiring folks with MS--you two are kindred spirits!

  10. I loved you post, Cathy. It was just filled with fascinating information. From my own experience (I'm 74), I think old age begins when we give up on living - and on learning. .

  11. Really great post, Cathy. And how awesome that he took the time to both speak AND listen to you about something you know a lot about. I agree with much of his work and am convinced that there is so much more we can learn about holistic health AND medical marijuana. One of my sisters is dealing with cancer and is using it as treatment. It's ridiculous in my opinion that the drug companies are keeping this valuable resource from so many who could benefit from it. Thanks so much for sharing it with all of us! ~Kathy

  12. Extraordinary man, extraordinary you, Cathy. Great post with so many key messages about how to live mindfully in our bodies at any age.

  13. I'm a huge advocate for trying new things and many of my posts are about that. To me, old has never been just a few years older than me. My mother was 42 when she had me, so when I was growing up, I got it into my brain that old was 10 years older than my parents. So it's always been a fluid number, right now my mother is 96....I think you know what old is then.

  14. I am doing just that today in fact. I am sitting and doing barely anything, something I rarely do! I tried my hand at an omelette... something I haven't done in eons. A little runny but it was breakfast. I so believe this - in fact, I give it as an assignment to people. To do something every day that they have wanted to do, but never done, or that their best friend would say, "Oh Margaret would never do that!" It's a fun assignment and always brings in good information. Thanks for a very good post Cathy!

  15. Cathy, I love your posts! There is something to be learned from all of them. I am a "scarety cat" and like to stay in my comfort zone. How boring! Baby steps,but I'm trying to change.

  16. I feel like this article was written for me, big thanks to you Cathy! As well as to Dr. Gupta, what a great man he is.

    This article has tackled so many topics but first let's get to medical marijuana, I know a lot of ill people who is in Chemotherapy right now (solely because I work as a medical technician) and can't express how deeply affected I am. I know it's hard for these people to go through that process and I can't help but tear up especially when a family member couldn't do anything to make them feel any better. I really think that the usage of medical marijuana should be up to the patients themselves. After all it's their lives, and they should do whatever the hell the want to live/feel better right?

    "the fear of public speaking is ranked higher than the fear of death" this statement really cracked me up because it is so true! And yes I've been trying to do something that scares me, I'm trying to do something different for myself, hopefully I can get outside my comfort zone and start doing something that is CHALLENGING. Again thanks for the article! and good luck 🙂

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